That you Lance?

So face-centric. What about a keen bush?

I dont think it is. You can avoid being shot on the street by not leaving your house. The blame lies with the shooter but you could avoid it if that was your goal.

Isn’t that just the point again though? Expressing suicidal thoughts is literally reaching out for help while being fully aware of the risk. If we accept those who impose that risk then we stigmatize reaching out for help. If we tell women to dress differently to avoid the risk we tell them the creeps are valid.

Thats not what Im saying at all and I dont think my comment made it sound like that. Im 100% convinced that predators are at fault and should be the ones being punished. Maybe my comment was unclear, Im not a native speaker.

Yeah probably just a wording/text forum/secondary language thing. See below.

Not sure what you mean exactly but I wasnt talking about predators’ freedom.

Probably same confusion as above.

So the talking points you’re making, at least in form and not intent, parallel arguments from evangelicals and other extreme right or fascist types. After talking I know you didn’t intend anything close to those viewpoints. However, I don’t feel it would have been appropriate to leave a statement unaddressed if there was a chance of interpretation in the malignant sense.

No-nutting is bad for mental health. It was a bad choice for a month.

Womens choice of clothing doesnt excuse predators, but it still puts many in a tough situation by tempting them (not voluntarily but for them its a temptation).

It is voluntary. Being a creep is a learned behavior and can be unlearned. I’ll admit it’s systemic but it’s our(M/Society) responsibility to change that.

Which is in no way saying the women are at fault but unwanted outcomes can be avoided by their chioce.

The sentence part after “but” is in direct conflict with thee first.

So you could live your life making sure others arent influenced in a negative way by your behavior or you could go to the limits of yoir freedom disregarding any consequences for others as long as youre on the legal side. The answer should be somewhere in the middle of the two extremes, but who can say where exactly. (I mean many do pretend they know, but its obviously subjective)

This should have been a separate paragraph, it’s a different idea even if in context. This still let’s predators off the hook by assuming their motivations and behavior are “natural” or “innate” in a way that can’t change. The one thing humans do well is learn. It’s one of our few evolutionary advantages. The “limits of your freedom” don’t have to include predatory behavior if you don’t identify it as part to your autonomy or self.

E: pedantism, see strikethrough

Absofuckinglutely not. Predatory behavior is inexcusable full stop.

Yeah and it’s clearly the way women choose to dress that excuses men’s predatory behavior /s

Yeah sure. Good podcast/series tho. It pulls a lot from The End of Policing by Alex Vitale. Robert Evans is also an incredible journalist/narrator.

i think the cover it in here but it’s been a while… Behind the police

Yeah sure, palace guards, militaries, mercenaries, and so on.

The “police man” is a concept from the last few hundred years.

E: don’t lemmy half asleep folks…

I don’t think you could have a successful society without laws, and you need someone to enforce those laws

This is a very post Renaissance take.

Sigh… Look, the point is we don’t let people off the hook because it’s hard to do something. It’s hard to go to work 40+ hrs a week for 40 years and they ask that of every single one of us.

They have the power or they don’t. If they do, and choose not to act or even attempt, they’re complicit in the world’s problems. If they don’t, and they’re relegated to continuing to sit and amass wealth, then the system itself is broken and must be raised.

You don’t even need to sell, you can take a loan out against an asset like every rich asshole or nation…

I refuse to accept that the most powerful people in the world are so helpless.

There’s a myriad of ways to handle covering wealth into purchasing power. The wealthy falling to do anything about the evils in the world is part of what makes them evil. They aren’t even trying. They use arguments like yours to throw their hands up and claim they’re helpless and that the system would fail, that the world would be worse off if they did anything at all.

Maybe you should read “saving” as “hoarding”. The skeet (tweet?) Is making a point about their odd motivation to continue to accrue unimaginable wealth far beyond the point where the costs of their wildest dreams are trivial. The whole while having the ability to literally end world hunger many times over after subtracting those costs.

Play is a good one for aerobics. Going for a run or bike? Try to find new routes or go places you haven’t before. Maybe run an errand. Maybe try to study wildlife or plants around while running one to another.

For strength training IDK. just pop in some absurd music and know that later it will feel good either just post exercise or weeks later when the exercise itself feels nice. It’s also going to be nice when you go to lift a thing or hike and recognize you’re actually stronger. Always a rewarding feeling!

In either case, it’s important to reflect positively on your progress. "Hell yeah i can do this thing now thanks to my effort!“ and not negatively e.g. “my goals are so far away I’m so weak”.

The Golden Shower of wealth if you will.

Not to mention the hassle of a networked printer… Trained personnel only!

Hell that’s regional even in the US. Most social interactions in the PNW used “What’s up!” in whatever variation to mean “Hi!” and “How’s it going/are you doing?” meant "Tell new how you’re feeling or how your day/task is progressing“. Honest answers were quite normal. The only people who were bothered were the bourgie types, and fuck 'em in any case.

We also just didn’t talk to unfamiliar people outside of social spaces if it could be helped.

They clearly hate printers, a safe assumption.

Oh no… god forgive us for wishing such horrible and wretched things upon your wealthiest mistakes…