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  • Perhaps I came off as too hostile. I read your comment and I thought it was potentially harmful and I’m incredibly depressed, so I wrote a hasty sniping response. I tend to think of things said as their effects in aggregate rather than the virtue of the person saying it.

    I’m also bi and arguably aromantic. And intend to remain childfree.













  • So what are you saying, that a Californian progressive who voted for Stein made a dumb choice and the one who voted for Harris made the smart choice?

    Blue states are the area where my argument is weakest, but honestly as a means of voting against Trump I’d probably still vote Harris if I lived in Cali. I’m less judgemental of people in solid blue states here voting third party, but I still think voting third party even then introduces future risk of vote splitting, but its a gaussian and temporal risk. So its hard to conceptualize.

    Further, doing so and openly stating you intend to do so encourages people in purple and red states to potentially do the same. And lets be completely honest here: third party voters are going to be incredibly vocal about their vote. Third party and non-voters fucking love jerking themselves off about how virtuous they are for not voting for Harris.

    Hypothetical, but still, who would you vote for?

    I don’t know. But not for fucking Jill Stein and can tell you that much. I wouldn’t trust her 180 on Ukraine at all and there are other stances of hers I think are dumb. Nor would I likely bother with a different third party. I’d probably look look very closely at my options between red and blue. And I’d probably grit my teeth and vote for Biden depending on how he campaigned but I’d not be nearly as terrified since Trump is out of the picture.

    And that’s the rub: in your scenario fascism is not on the ballot. The stakes are significantly lower. So the details would matter more.

    Did Harris even publicly utter the phrases “ranked balloting” or “proportional representation” in 2024?

    I don’t think she did, but neither did Trump. And in fact Trump is largely interested in destroying what little democracy we have.

    I’m going to be honest though, it might as well all be hypothetical. Americans are fucked. Its game over, and we very very much deserve what’s coming.


  • Yes, I think it’s from Twain.

    Its commonly misattributed to him.

    I backed my assertions with stats, however poor you think they are as analysis.

    Your assertion is too vague to rebut directly. And I did not say stats are “poor analysis” I said using stats on their own without the background in contextualizing stats makes any analysis nearly worthless.

    What do yo back up your assertions with, other than lame DNC, CNN, and Vaush talking points?

    So you already have made up your mind about what and how I think allowing you to dismiss my actual points contained in my post, which you’ve conveniently ignored.

    So I’ll repost my most important point: The core fact remains that voting for a third party under a first past the post system is risking permitting the greater evil to win.





  • Sure, but on average when some self proclaimed leftist’s opening is “Democrats did a bad thing” in a vacuum my immediate assumption is they’re a campist/tankie, accelerationist, or a rightwing psyop and my instinct is to immediately challenge them (most of the time… sometimes its me critiquing the dems)

    Sometimes it turns out they’re giving an earnest critique but usually not.




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